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James
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:34:53 PM(UTC)
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Was the 15-yard penalty enough for Kiaro Holts' cut block from behind against Jadeveon Clowney? Should he have been ejected? Suspended? I recall a dook lineman doing this last year to one of UNC's defensive guys (Kareem Martin?), and UNC fans were livid.


James
#2 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 8:48:58 AM(UTC)
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Here's the dook cheap shot against UNC's Tim Jackson last year.  Almost identical to the one last night.


Jesse
#3 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 10:27:33 AM(UTC)
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My take is that Holts should be suspended for one game. It was a cheap shot, and could have potentially injured Clowney.

I'd be in favor of Fedora setting an example that our program does not find that acceptable.
HeelFanMIkeB
#4 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 11:01:55 PM(UTC)
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Yea that's ridiculous! The worst part is it was totally unnecessary! Holts beat him on that play and we got a huge first down. He killed the momentum. So dumb!
tarheeltatman
#5 Posted : Saturday, August 31, 2013 2:32:24 AM(UTC)
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BIG difference in the two plays.....the d00k player took an intentional cheap shot on Tim Jackson, resulting in a knee injury that ended Jackson's season. I saw the play in the SC game, and I feel Holt was trying to protect his QB, something linemen are taught to do at any cost/action. It's hard to condemn Holt's action during the heat of battle, in my opinion, whereas Jackson was nowhere near the d00k QB and was the victim of a malicious hit. If I recall correctly, Holt and Clowney even embraced and shook hands after the game.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:47:19 AM(UTC)
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 Just doing his job......thought Renner was going to be blindsided. I'm sure he realized he made a mistake, but after the game the two shared a hand shake and a hug which was caught on TV.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:51:53 PM(UTC)
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Guys clowneys back was turned and the ball was away and everything. Holts made a good initial block on the play and everything. There was no need for that at all
tarheeltatman
#8 Posted : Monday, September 02, 2013 11:55:43 PM(UTC)
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True, Clowney was turned away from Holt but turned TOWARD Renner....all Holt could see was Clowney headed toward Renner. Doubtful Holt even knew the ball was out, being he was lowered coming back up from the ground. Let Holt NOT do something to protect his QB, Renner gets blasted from behind and injured, and Holt is the goat....better to err on the side of caution, per say.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:11:21 AM(UTC)
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While the play was accurately called as "clipping" and a penalty was properly assessed, that is the only thing that was called correct in this instance.  The media buzz calling it dirty and cheap and the calling for suspensions is completely unwarranted and that video shows this clearly.  There is a picture from the backside that perfectly shows this as well.  If this was any other player not named Clowney there would not have been a second more given to it anywhere.  If you notice the video it shows Holts intention clearly.  If the clip was about three seconds prior to what it currently shows you would see that Holts was clearly falling and was not intending to hit or protect anyone.  Pay attention to the stripe on his helmet.  At no point does it veer or point towards the defender he is claimed to be targeting with a cheap shot.  The body follows the head and his head is pointed straight towards the ground (since he was falling).  Also pay attention to his hands.  His hands do not go towards the supposed target at all.  Where is the intent?  His intent is to catch himself from falling.  Now let's look at the surrounding details.  It was at the end of the game where it was basically decided.  If he was going to target someone wouldn't be a person who actually made an impact on the game not some three tackle practice dummy who was off the field as much as he was on?  Also we are not a great rivalry.  We will not meet them in a conference championship game possibly so what is the motivation?  There is none.  There was nothing dirty or cheap about this play.  It involved a media darling that they hyped up and then watched as he did nothing so they had to make another story out of nothing to cover that crap up.  End of story. 


And the dook hit was nothing similar that was dirty and after the play and the intent is clear.  There was no need and it is a rivalry and that game was not decided so.....Also where was the great media outcry oh yeah no football gods/darlings were involved so....
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